I think we all agree the Auto Turrets are one of the most OP ingame with huge damage for 1 AP, mainly the Scorcher AT. I suggest to reduce their burst to 6 (from 8 of NJ turrets and 10 from PP turret).
It was just supposed to be a comparison between the turrets, as I also wrote. Not vehicle itself.
No matter: I think your suggestions are good.
One might ask why after a year it wasn’t “so noticeable” that turrets are “OP”? So for me the turrets only became “OP” after the patch when the control went completely to the player. Before “Remote Control” was also strong, but on the other hand the turret AI also made nonsense (e.g. wrong opponent selection, or friendly fire). This AI nonsense didn’t make the decision to turret completely as trivial as it is now, as there were also disadvantages. I don’t mean to say that the disadvantages should come back, just that something should be readjusted “now” in terms of firepower.
It was this “take 1 place in the backpack” that triggered me because with it you already opened the door to compare the entire turret with the entire vehicle. In my opinion, the armadillo has advantages and disadvantages, and its weapon doesn’t seem to be in the first part to me, but it is more than compensated for by what I’ve written.
Anyway, there is nothing to argue about here, we are on the same side
I think it’s OK to leave it at 1 AP cost and limit use per device. So a Technician can use manual control on 2 turrets, but 2 Technicians can’t use same turret twice.
On their own they can fire 2 times per turn, so there is no difference to the Armadillo turret.
And a Technician can also fire the Armadillo turret with Remote Control for 1 AP until it is empty, again no difference (except it cant be reloaded).
Scarab is hard capped by firing once per turn, because it has a rocket launcher.
Aspida is special but can also fired/zapped by one or more Technicians for 1AP multiple times per turn.
Not arguing that, but even with remote op make them only fire twice. So what or who controls them they can only fire twice rather than four times with remote operation.
In fact, currently they can fire more per turn, 2 1 times on their own and per Technician additionally 4 times = 6 5 times per turret and Technician.
(Edit: Not the real) Max abuse:
8 Technicians and 8 turrets = 8 x 5 = 40 shots / turn = 10 x 60 x 40 = 24.000 potential damage in one turn
Edit: If you limit to one turret per technician, each additional turret adds 1 x 10 x 60 = 600 potential damage to the equation.
Edit2: Correction, see below, they can only soot once per turn for 4 AP.
Hmmm … imo 2AP per shot, but I have to admit that I mostly shot with the Technician 1 AP remote control. @etermes has more experience with turrets, maybe he has an answer, otherwise I can test it.
If you use remote control during PX turn, and you don’t use the bursts, it stacks,
next turn that turret can use twice on its own.
There are not limit for exploit, you bring a technician with a lof WP, and remote control is only restricted by those WP (1 AP 3 WP per use), assault using onslaught grants two more APs, with more technicians is a party.
Ammo never is a problem, I never ran out of ammo, Scorcher AT is amazing and super OP,
I have to use one max. and only in specific missions.
Unless, as etermes, mentioned; the tech remote controlled the turret on the previous turn and it was not fired. It can now do 2 shots on the next turn.
It seems we all are in agreement with this overpower… you know if the developers of game are aware of it and if they will do some change in a future patch?
The turrets may look overpowered in theory. But in practice whenever I place them Pandorans end their turns behind cover, so that the next turn my turret has no targets to fire. So I have to pack it (for 2 AP) and deploy again in another place (1 or 2 more AP).