Impossible expectations of allies

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@samshell

I haven’t played that much of Chtulu, but is there some reward for NOT helping the havens being attacked?

I think you are referring to opportunity costs - so if you defend a Haven, do you lose the opportunity to do something else (like defend another Haven, or go on a different kind of mission). The answer is no, not really, but the constant attacks in different places can make it difficult to respond to all of them if you are not fielding enough teams and will make you postpone (rather than opt out of) doing other missions.

@Yokes

watching required research time would cause player to rethink the number of his research labs

Admittedly, that’s what happened to me in my first playthrough. When I saw some research taking a long time, I spammed half a dozen labs. However, I doubt that most first-time players will perceive, e.g. 10 days as a very long time to complete a research. In PP that’s a life time though.

@Wormerine

If hunger affects population depth, would it be possibly to calculate when the game will end?

Also @Tam. AFAIK a Haven will lose population due to starvation as long as its population exceeds its food production/the food production of nearby friendly Havens, so the attrition rate due to starvation should actually go down eventually, though it goes up again once the Haven is covered in mist.

However, my idea rather than giving the players a constantly changing estimate on when they may lose, is to give a sense of proportion, so the player had an understanding of how many people are dying each day due to starvation and how that compares to losing an entire Haven to an attack.

@Rainer

My only feedback on the subject is that I think mission frequency is way too high.

@Rainer

Challenge is quickly lost in a lot of missions once you get to a certain point so these back-to-backs feel like slogs (opposite of the other player’s feedback) to the point where I kind of want an auto-resolve to handle the immense frequency of missions while waiting for a Scylla to approach so I can continue to progress the game.

Yes, I think that the general feeling is that the Haven defense missions are too frequent (and for some players it’s frustrating, while for others just tedious).

I wonder though if there is anybody who is happy with the current system and could speak to it…?

PS

I have created a new topic to discuss ideas on how to add strategic options to protect Havens, to reduce the number of Haven defense missions.

Improve Haven ecosystem to reduce grind of Haven defense missions

As the game has shifted to making protecting Havens from attack the main concern of the player, two issues have arisen, or perhaps simply became more apparent. The game turns into an endless grind of protecting Havens from attack. The only way to do this is through tactical missions; there are no strategic options to improve Havens’ capacity to defend themselves. The purpose of these missions (both Haven defense and attacking Pandoran bases) is not really to win, but to avoid losing, and thus…