Mark for death not working as intended

[sectoid_br]

@MadSkunky

It would be hard to understand when you got spotted by a Triton with double perception that is hidden. Some of them have pretty high stealth so that this happens quite often. Then you would not be able to use vanish but don’t know why.

Additionally a revealed Infiltrator already goes back in stealth mode when he is unspotted for one turn, so this vanish to do it immediately would be a bit underrated for a lvl 6 skill IMO.

I was afraid that was possible, though I didn’t really know. Yeah this way it’s not an option. About perception though, I wish we had some mechanic to know spotting tiles like in XCOM2. It’s a point where PP’s implementation is bad imho.

@MadSkunky

I’m not sure, making stealth mostly an option for long range could be to much.

It’s not really that, stealth would remain the same, you just wouldn’t be able to go back into stealth without moving away first. I understand your point though, you’re saying that vanish is basically needed for stealth to work right. I think maybe we wouldn’t need vanish that much if we had a way to know the spotting tiles. You would know where you can’t step into for the enemies you see, and if you got spotted from a hidden enemy, it would add spice to the tactics - do you press on to reveal the bugger and kill him with your snipers or do you backtrack to hide yourself again first?

@MadSkunky

I still think that drop the damage buff to 50% would be enough.

Man in my head I was remembering it as 50%, it’s a 100% that’s ridiculous
I still consider it too much at 50% because it’s free and possibly neverending. Of course you have much more xp with infs than me so maybe you’re right.

@MadSkunky

Nowadays the vanish state ends with the players turn, in the enemies turn he is nothing more than a normal Infiltrator and so pretty vulnerable.

That’s great, I thought it was as before.

@MadSkunky

and 50% dmg bonus because of Brawler

I thought it was only for bash… dude this is crazy hahaha I’ve seen a vid of the scyther terminator but didn’t go into details of the build. I prefer to not even know them so I don’t have the temptation to use them

edit: I still remember discovering by myself (I didn’t use the forum at the time) one of the first terminator builds with assaults, chaining kills and gaining ap back to dash and chain more kills… it was too much fun and the only thing lacking was the Unreal Tournament narrator saying ULTRA KILL and such. Then a few missions later the whole game became very boring.

[noStas]

@sectoid_br

Yeah this way it’s not an option. About perception though, I wish we had some mechanic to know spotting tiles like in XCOM2. It’s a point where PP’s implementation is bad imho.

Imo is confident that the Perception mechanic is not yet complete. Perception, Stealth, “Review Sector” and “Fog of War”. There are still not enough other mechanics here that can create an Understandable and Interconnected System.