# Why does it take so long to load? **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Discussion\ **Created:** [September 15, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382 "2019-09-15T19:19:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LordLongmont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ba0ec/32.png) [@LordLongmont](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/LordLongmont)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/1 "2019-09-15T19:19:42Z")
Why does it take so long to load? Want to play a quick game… cant because it takes 10 minutes to load and then another 5-6 to get into your save. ---
**Author:** ![Ryu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/ryu/32/1207_2.png) [@Ryu](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Ryu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/2 "2019-09-15T19:30:34Z")
There are some people with these issue, needs to be optimized, UV said he reported it. But to be clear, your PC seems too slow. I have a good modern PC and it takes maybe 30 seconds to load. ---
**Author:** ![meekings949](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@meekings949](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/meekings949)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/3 "2019-09-22T10:50:20Z")
ive just installed the latest build and it takes 5 minutes or more to load . i have an i7 8th gen proccesor 32gb ram and nvidia gtx 1080 ---
**Author:** ![Yokes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/yokes/32/310_2.png) [@Yokes](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Yokes)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/4 "2019-09-22T11:14:48Z")
> [@meekings949](#): > > i have an i7 8th gen proccesor 32gb ram and nvidia gtx 1080 So better than my config and for me game load in 1.5 minutes. What drive do you use? SSD or HDD? ---
**Author:** ![samshell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/samshell/32/446_2.png) [@samshell](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/samshell)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/5 "2019-09-22T13:24:13Z")
> [@LordLongmont](#): > > Want to play a quick game… cant because it takes 10 minutes to load That’s a huge waiting time, my system needs 3 to 4 minutes to load the game, but from that moment on it’s smooth sailing. > [@Yokes](#): > > i have an i7 8th gen proccesor 32gb ram and nvidia gtx 1080 I have an i5 2.5Ghz with a GeForce GTX 950M, and even if the game takes 3-4 minutes to load, from that moment on it’s OK. ---
**Author:** ![meekings949](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@meekings949](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/meekings949)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/6 "2019-09-22T13:53:56Z")
I install all my games on Hdd the os is on an nvme ssd Regards Sean ---
**Author:** ![Yokes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/yokes/32/310_2.png) [@Yokes](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Yokes)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/7 "2019-09-22T14:22:06Z")
> [@meekings949](#): > > I install all my games on Hdd That me the case. I think that the game is unpacking or at least doing check sum of all the files before loading them to memory. If your read times from HDD are slow then it can take time. I have it on SSD, but probably my CPU is quite old and making all the calculations takes time for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ryu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/ryu/32/1207_2.png) [@Ryu](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Ryu)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/8 "2019-09-22T16:33:19Z")
Just to throw some values into the room: On my normal sata ssd it takes about 45 seconds from klicking play to menu (skip the intro). On my “fast” nvme ssd it takes about 35 seconds and on my “slow” hdd it takes about 4:30 min !!! Yokes might be right it will be some unpacking or check sum calc. What I can see on my hdd, windows tells me something about 20MB/s, so there must be some very IO intense operations, that is the point where hdd sucks and ssd rules. Put Phoenix Point on your ssd, even any very old sata2 ssd with ~200-300Mbit max speed and less 50k IOPS will be way better than any hdd! Maybe Snapshot Games can optimze something until release, but someone who still uses hdds today has to live with long loadtimes. ---
**Author:** ![NBK\_RedSpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@NBK\_RedSpy](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/NBK_RedSpy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/9 "2019-09-23T01:11:05Z")
I posted in another thread that the game loads 12.8 GB of data at the start. It is probably just not optimized yet. It’s possible that it is a checksum but just as likely that they are currently loading all assets at the start or something, which can be optimized. ---
**Author:** ![NBK\_RedSpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@NBK\_RedSpy](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/NBK_RedSpy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/10 "2019-09-23T01:20:27Z")
Just really a side note here: Defragging your hard drive or using Microsoft’s contig can speed up HDD times. SSDs by nature don’t have issues with files being all over the storage space. Even brand new files written to a mostly empty hard drive can end up being split many times and distributed in various physical locations. ---
**Author:** ![Ryu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/ryu/32/1207_2.png) [@Ryu](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Ryu)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/11 "2019-09-23T06:39:55Z")
If you look at the loadtimes between hdd and ssd you can easily see that a defragmented hdd doesn’t end up in much better loadtimes, you maybe can get a few seconds, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![NBK\_RedSpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@NBK\_RedSpy](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/NBK_RedSpy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/12 "2019-09-23T20:56:05Z")
Yep, you are right. Currently the load is doing a fair amount of random IO. They are probably waiting for development to settle out before they optimize the bundles. ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/michael/32/1030_2.png) [@Michael](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/13 "2019-09-24T14:25:14Z")
For all the load times are pretty crazy (as discussed, likely due to bundle optimisation), I will say that the game plays far smoother than previous builds now, and that’s also on the media box we’ve got plugged in to the TV, which is a fairly low-end rig, gaming wise. ---
**Author:** ![clubbozx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@clubbozx](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/clubbozx)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/why-does-it-take-so-long-to-load/4382/14 "2024-10-30T08:39:11Z")
I wait only 10 - 15 seconds lol