# Vote on Difficulty of "Legend Without SuperHeroes"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Game Feedback\ **Created:** [December 25, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074 "2019-12-25T07:44:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/1 "2019-12-25T07:44:21Z")
Who wants to play or watch Phoenix Point on the difficulty of “Legend Without SuperHeroes”? ( PP-LWSH 🤔 ) _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/1))_ > _ **What is “Legend Without SuperHeroes”?** _ > This is a rebalance of the current difficulty - Legend, may be… 🤔 > Vote for the first option you like. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SpiteAndMalice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/spiteandmalice/32/39_2.png) [@SpiteAndMalice](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/SpiteAndMalice)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/2 "2019-12-25T10:31:42Z")
> [@noStas](#): > > “Legend Without SuperHeroes” Forgive my ignorance, but what is “Legend Without SuperHeroes”? ---
**Author:** ![Tikigod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/tikigod/32/2724_2.png) [@Tikigod](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Tikigod)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/3 "2019-12-25T11:16:10Z")
> [@SpiteAndMalice](#): > > > [@noStas](#): > > > > “Legend Without SuperHeroes” > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is “Legend Without SuperHeroes”? What Spite said. ---
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/4 "2019-12-25T11:36:49Z")
> [@SpiteAndMalice](#): > > what is “Legend Without SuperHeroes”? This is a rebalance of the current difficulty - Legend, may be… 🤔 Vote for the first option you like. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tikigod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/tikigod/32/2724_2.png) [@Tikigod](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Tikigod)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/5 "2019-12-25T11:39:49Z")
> [@noStas](#): > > > [@SpiteAndMalice](#): > > > > what is “Legend Without SuperHeroes”? > > This is a rebalance of the current difficulty - Legend, may be… 🤔 > Vote for the first option you like. 😉 Can’t really vote when the options can mean pretty much anything… ---
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/6 "2019-12-25T11:52:28Z")
In your opinion, what should be the choices? ---
**Author:** ![Tikigod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/tikigod/32/2724_2.png) [@Tikigod](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Tikigod)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/7 "2019-12-25T11:54:05Z")
Just establishing what ‘Legend without SuperHeroes’ would entail would be sufficient. At the moment it’s a poll about voting for implementing a difficulty mode with no defined details. ---
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/8 "2019-12-25T12:08:41Z")
I don’t have the answer you are waiting for, perhaps now. My opinion is like LongWar1, but PP has a different basic gameplay model with different rules and Opportunities, Many Opportunities 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![SpiteAndMalice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/spiteandmalice/32/39_2.png) [@SpiteAndMalice](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/SpiteAndMalice)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/9 "2019-12-25T22:10:13Z")
> [@noStas](#): > > In your opinion, what should be the choices? I just want to know what the question is. ---
**Author:** ![pantolomin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/pantolomin/32/1398_2.png) [@pantolomin](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/pantolomin)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/10 "2019-12-25T22:26:17Z")
I took it as tuning down some of the abilities: - bye bye return fire, shooting without AP is superhuman - rage burst tuned down to using 2-3 clips and limited to burst weapons - abilities limited to once a turn (dash, quick aim, mindcrush, panic, …) - armor break limited to melee - … And of course enemies tuned a bit accordingly. And so, I answered “global mod” since I don’t want to play legendary but still want to benefit from the mod on other difficulty levels. ---
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/11 "2019-12-26T06:51:17Z")
> [@pantolomin](#): > > bye bye return fire **Return Fire** - limit it at once on turn, twice for the master of the pistol (2 level) - can be done as in X-Com for the remainder of AP, 1AP can be subtracted from the next turn - you can use activation through chance, like chance crit (increases when added) > [Reaction Fire - UFOpaedia](https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Reaction_Fire) It’s easy to simply cross out the mechanic, but it’s always a loss of something. 💫 `Dash` = QuickSilver in [https://youtu.be/T9GFyZ5LREQ?t=40](https://youtu.be/T9GFyZ5LREQ?t=40) ---
**Author:** ![Vipre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/838e76/32.png) [@Vipre](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Vipre)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/12 "2019-12-26T07:02:17Z")
Quick aim limited to once per turn completely defeats the point of quick aim. The whole point is to allow a three ap weapon to fire twice in a single turn. ---
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/13 "2019-12-26T07:13:34Z")
> [@Vipre](#): > > Quick aim limited to once per turn 4AP ^ 6WP for 2 shots with reduced accuracy ---
**Author:** ![Vipre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/838e76/32.png) [@Vipre](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Vipre)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/14 "2019-12-26T07:17:09Z")
If I follow what you’re saying then that’s not a bad compromise. ---
**Author:** ![pantolomin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/pantolomin/32/1398_2.png) [@pantolomin](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/pantolomin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/15 "2019-12-26T08:08:25Z")
For me it was more the ability to shoot after moving 2 AP. As @noStas puts it, a “rapid fire” ability to shoot twice at a target. ---
**Author:** ![noStas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/nostas/32/2001_2.png) [@noStas](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/noStas)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/16 "2019-12-26T13:30:04Z")
Actually, I have an idea to present ability levels, up to 3 updates. > Quick Aim: > 1- 4AP ^ 6WP for 2 shots with reduced accuracy, > 2- 3,5AP ^ 6WP for 2 shots with reduced accuracy, > 3- 3AP ^ 6WP for 2 shots with reduced accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![SpiteAndMalice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/spiteandmalice/32/39_2.png) [@SpiteAndMalice](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/SpiteAndMalice)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/vote-on-difficulty-of-legend-without-superheroes/8074/17 "2019-12-26T13:38:21Z")
> [@noStas](#): > > **Return Fire** > > - limit it at once on turn, twice for the master of the pistol (2 level) That’s a nice idea.