# Missiles and Grenades and cross-eyed soldiers
**URL:** https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296
**Category:** Game Feedback
**Created:** [August 22, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296 "2020-08-22T15:11:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@Yokes](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Yokes)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/21 "2020-08-30T22:59:31Z")
> [@kaptain](#):
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> And I feel that a target zone really needs to be shown for all explosives showing possible deviation points/area so that you can estimate if it does deviate what sort of effect area could still result.
I would like to see something like World of Tanks had with artillery shots. đ
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### Author:  [@Demoulius](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Demoulius)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/22 "2020-08-31T21:13:39Z")
He asked you to be civil. Seems like a perfectly reasonable question.
> > [@kaptain](#):
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> > And I feel that a target zone really needs to be shown for all explosives showing possible deviation points/area so that you can estimate if it does deviate what sort of effect area could still result.
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> I would like to see something like World of Tanks had with artillery shots.
What do they have? Im not familiar with it?
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### Author:  [@Yokes](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Yokes)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/23 "2020-09-01T01:08:30Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0KjMAWBNkc)
Since 1:25 you can see good example how targeting circle looks like
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### Author:  [@Hugh\_Jasdic](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Hugh_Jasdic)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/24 "2020-09-02T20:18:00Z")
Agreed - the point of a tactical/strategic game is to be able to make impactful decisions. Without adequate information the decisions chosen lose their impact. âHey, maybe this will work - maybe it will be a complete waste - weâre not going to tell you or even give you a hint how likely the outcome is, so - good luck! Now own your decision!â Makes save-scumming alot less offensive than the blind decision making forced upon us.
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### Author:  [@sectoid\_br](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/sectoid_br)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/25 "2020-09-02T21:38:56Z")
My guess is that this is a time-constraint issue, they obviously would want to implement better ways for everything where possible.
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### Author:  [@Hugh\_Jasdic](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Hugh_Jasdic)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/26 "2020-09-05T02:14:14Z")
dafuq Voland? Did you actualy think when you wrote âHowever, when aiming them you can tell that they have a higher chance of hitting the spot if the aiming line is red and it ends in a red circle with a dot inside.â
Seriously?
YOU CANNOT EVEN LAUNCH UNLESS THE CIRCLE IS RED WITH A DOT INSIDE!!!
So your âsolutionâ is absolute nonsense. They donât have a âhigherâ percent chance of hitting when red - they just have a CHANCE of hitting. What chance? Nobody can tell⌠LoL.
So here is a good metaphor; I am going to heat up a single item of silverware in your oven to 500F then I am going to put it back in your silverware drawer. YOU must now set the table immediately. Would you like me to tell you which it is? Tough. You ask if it was a big fork or a little spoon? Tough! It is random and the odds are in your favor. Stop crying like a little girl and just do it. THAT is what launching feels like in this game as well as the devs responses to our request for better info.
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### Author:  [@Ementrude](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Ementrude)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/27 "2020-09-05T12:57:49Z")
Stop being obnoxious! I would not even expect @VOLAND to even respond to your nonsense. The explanation is correct, but judging by your rude social skills, these comments may be beyond your level of comprehension. Please stop reacting like this. The intention of @VOLAND was to help you!
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### Author:  [@VOLAND](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/VOLAND)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/28 "2020-09-05T16:13:13Z")
Did I borrow money from you and not pay you back? Did I sell you a bad secondhand car? Am I one of your progenitors that failed to provide you with sufficient nourishment and care in your formative years?
Then what goes on in your head when you write something like this to make you think that this is an OK way talk to people you donât know?
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### Author:  [@Demoulius](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/Demoulius)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/29 "2020-09-05T21:30:10Z")
I think @Hugh_Jasdic was trying to get at that firing them is a straight up gamble right now.
The red circle with a dot is needed to straight up fire. It doesent say anything about your odds of veering off target. If its grey you cant fire, at all.
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### Author:  [@sectoid\_br](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/sectoid_br)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/missiles-and-grenades-and-cross-eyed-soldiers/11296/30 "2020-09-06T03:04:12Z")
I think Hugh may have had a bad day, who knows. Iâm going through the new topic responses and this is the second one that I see him write like this, but in another one he was critiquing something else with very reasonable arguments and education.
However, his intention is clear as Demoulius wrote. Explosive launchers need better explanation of the error possibilities⌠unfortunately I donât have much to add here. Yokes suggestion of the world of tanks mechanic may work, although in a hurried watch I didnât understand it đ. Never played that game.
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