# Able To Throw/Launch Grenade Even Without Enemy Present **URL:** \ **Category:** Game Feedback\ **Created:** [January 20, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050 "2020-01-20T18:37:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mcarver2000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/mcarver2000/32/2435_2.png) [@mcarver2000](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/mcarver2000)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/1 "2020-01-20T18:37:45Z")
One should be able to do preemptive tossing of grenades for the purpose of removing cover/glass or laying fire barriers with incendiary grenades. But without a unit present, one can’t toss the grenade. Speaking of grenades, why not have the different types of grenades for the grenade launcher? ---
**Author:** ![djoles77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@djoles77](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/djoles77)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/2 "2020-01-21T15:16:31Z")
Try to add it here [https://phoenixpoint.canny.io/feedback](https://phoenixpoint.canny.io/feedback) ---
**Author:** ![mcarver2000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/mcarver2000/32/2435_2.png) [@mcarver2000](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/mcarver2000)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/3 "2020-01-21T15:55:52Z")
Will do [https://phoenixpoint.canny.io/feedback/p/able-to-throwlaunch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present](https://phoenixpoint.canny.io/feedback/p/able-to-throwlaunch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present) ---
**Author:** ![UnstableVoltage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/unstablevoltage/32/5_2.png) [@UnstableVoltage](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/UnstableVoltage)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/4 "2020-01-21T16:18:24Z")
It is already possible to freely throw grenades. They do not require a target to be present. ---
**Author:** ![djoles77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@djoles77](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/djoles77)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/5 "2020-01-21T16:49:15Z")
I have checked it, you are right. Now it is like that. But few days ago I was not able to throw grenade to crush a wall in Synedrian haven, I remember it clearly. Some undocumented change perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![UnstableVoltage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/unstablevoltage/32/5_2.png) [@UnstableVoltage](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/UnstableVoltage)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/6 "2020-01-21T16:50:10Z")
It’s always been like that. ---
**Author:** ![djoles77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@djoles77](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/djoles77)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/7 "2020-01-21T17:01:33Z")
> [@djoles77](#): > > But few days ago I was not able to throw grenade to crush a wall in Synedrian haven, I remember it clearly. If I find myself in that situation again I will double check what’s happening and report a bug if needed. Thanks for quick answer. ---
**Author:** ![UnstableVoltage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/unstablevoltage/32/5_2.png) [@UnstableVoltage](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/UnstableVoltage)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/8 "2020-01-21T17:05:12Z")
Is it possible that the flight path of the grenade was obstructed? It will not let you throw if the throwing arc is clearly pathing through a wall, roof or some other large obstruction. ---
**Author:** ![djoles77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@djoles77](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/djoles77)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/9 "2020-01-21T17:45:07Z")
As I remember (not 100% sure) I could throw grenade in front of the wall but as soon as blast radius covered the wall it went from red to blue. Maybe I was behind the cover which blocked me I can’t check it now. ---
**Author:** ![mcarver2000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forums.snapshotgames.com/mcarver2000/32/2435_2.png) [@mcarver2000](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/mcarver2000)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/able-to-throw-launch-grenade-even-without-enemy-present/9050/10 "2020-01-21T18:46:55Z")
> [@UnstableVoltage](#): > > It is already possible to freely throw grenades. They do not require a target to be present. Thanks for clarifying this. It may be that the last few times I attempted this, the arc of the throw was obstructed by an obstacle (e.g roof). In that case one should be able to toss/roll the grenade to a position. Granted the range should be shortened, but there is more than one way to “toss” a grenade.