# A reconsideration of Mind Control

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**Created:** [April 13, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/a-reconsideration-of-mind-control/10228 "2020-04-13T03:27:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![VOLAND](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c6cbf5/32.png) [@VOLAND](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/u/VOLAND)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/a-reconsideration-of-mind-control/10228/2 "2020-04-13T08:12:35Z")

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Just yesterday I added Sirens to my guide, you might want to check it out

> [@A comprehensive guide for playing Phoenix Point (or an attempt at one)](https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/a-comprehensive-guide-for-playing-phoenix-point-or-an-attempt-at-one/10188/3):
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> Sirens are cool and scary, but they are not that hard to deal with. As all Pandorans they come with different heads and arms that give them different abilities, and different amounts of armor and HPs, but the main danger with Sirens is that they will attempt to Mind Control (MC) your squaddies.

As to my opinion on Sirens…

- The fact that they don’t need LOS to initiate MC is certainly annoying. However, they don’t get to move the soldier under MC until the next turn, while the player’s Priests get to do it on the same turn. So _personally_ I don’t mind that they get to do MC without LOS - it’s more than a fair tradeoff, IMO.

- I don’t think there is any Lore to support that MC should be more WP expensive over longer distances. Also, using formulas makes prediciting the outcome of player’s decisions harder. Right now it’s easy to understand if the Siren will keep MC, or not, and what has to be done to end it. This, IMO, is the most important, and the biggest advantage of MC mechanics in PP vs other games.

- Another possibility would be to make Siren’s MC have the same cost as the player’s (that is, the WP of the soldier at the start of the turn). However, this could also work against the player, as killing Pandas would reduce the cost of MCing the soldier for the Siren.

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